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Post by lauradoll on Jan 2, 2006 11:08:22 GMT
Jim Shepherd is still a class player- he's signed with my band and played 4th man down at the Senior Trophy in May last year. He's had to retire recently but was still fab the last time I heard him!
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Post by dafyddapiago on Aug 7, 2006 6:28:09 GMT
Firstly may I correct your spelling as a matter of principle! Principal is a position of rank; principle is a matter of belief, a fundamental truth.
It has been my privilege to have played beside Maurice, Willie, Jim and John; Iain is a former pupil, and I've given Roger the odd lesson; I also know Lee Rigg and McCann. Maurice, Willie, and Jim are great players; Roger is on his way to earning that title. The others are very fine players. IMHO the greatest of these is Maurice Murphy. The only player who has come near to Maurice's ability has been having lessons with me recently, and that is David Daws.
Dafydd ap Iago
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Post by James McFadyen on Aug 7, 2006 15:56:37 GMT
There is only one best Principal Cornet of Black Dyke - Roger Webster. He played flawlessly at the Regionals (with Grimey, obviously!)
but...
Dyke were better all-round, they were robbed!
Anyway, the best - Roger Webster!
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Post by Naomi McFadyen on Aug 7, 2006 19:36:50 GMT
There is and only one best Principal Cornet of Black Dyke - Roger Webster. He played flawlessly at the Regionals (with Grimey, obviously!) but... Dyke were better all-round, they were robbed! Anyway, the best - Roger Webster! ditto that!
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Post by dafyddapiago on Aug 8, 2006 6:11:00 GMT
Wow................. I don't believe it! I must have incurred the wrath of the McFadyen clan to have had the audacity to make my posting. I didn't realize you were both from my generation and heard Willie Maurice and Jim live; how old are you - 66 & 63? Besides I still have memories of James playing Sop. Cornet for TRMB rattling around my skull. I'm afraid not to be compared with the above performers. Finally, I believe the "and" in your first sentence is redundant!
Dafydd ap Iago
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Post by Naomi McFadyen on Aug 8, 2006 11:12:57 GMT
We can only judge (obviously) on what we know of today... incidentally, we are 26 and 23, I'm glad I'm not 63!!
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 8, 2006 13:59:35 GMT
Wow................. I don't believe it! I must have incurred the wrath of the McFadyen clan to have had the audacity to make my posting. Besides I still have memories of James playing Sop. Cornet for TRMB rattling around my skull. I'm afraid not to be compared with the above performers. Finally, I believe the "and" in your first sentence is redundant! Dafydd ap Iago ;D ;D ;D ;D You have a superb way with words i'm chuckling away here.
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Post by dafyddapiago on Aug 8, 2006 14:44:24 GMT
We can only judge (obviously) on what we know of today... incidentally, we are 26 and 23, I'm glad I'm not 63!! Madam, my sincere apologies for mistaking your age. I am also glad that you are 23 for Laura's sake; I think you could have problems breast feeding at 63. Maybe when you're 63 your opinions might be a little more circumspect. Dafydd ap Iago
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Post by Naomi McFadyen on Aug 8, 2006 15:14:21 GMT
well David, wont you look at that!!!!.... looks like Webster's winning!! Seems that other people agree with my opinion.... which is all it is after-all... you have yours, I have mine... everyone else has theirs.....
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 8, 2006 17:47:14 GMT
I voted for Maurice Murphy to keep the record straight.
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Post by gump on Aug 8, 2006 22:32:43 GMT
We had the pleasure of Maurice Murphy attending the NYBBS course last week for a couple if days. He is one of the best players I have ever heard, and surely no Principal cornet of Dyke has achieved nearly as much through his playing as Maurice. He told us at NYBBS he'd recorded over 400 film scores in his lifetime, and was still getting phone calls last week for him to do more and all at the grand age of 71! The man is a legend and a genuine nice guy and gets my vote!
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Post by Sharpy on Aug 9, 2006 7:23:47 GMT
Age is nothing as long as you can still enjoy your playing and keep up the standards that you want for yourself. Look at Don Lusher (RIP), he was still gigging even though he was 82!!!
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Post by smaca on Aug 9, 2006 8:01:56 GMT
Richard, at 81 your doing not too bad yourself!
As for "Best Principal Cornet of Black Dyke", I have to respect Mr J views as he has sat with/listened to or taught most of these players, so he is more than qualified and respected to be listened to when giving his view.I have always admired and respected Mr J on what he has given to and achieved in the banding world, and was scared of him from day one as a 10 year old at my first band rehearsal with Cumbernauld Silver when he lay on the floor and took our massive Bb player and told him to stand on his stomach and preceded to lift the man physically up and down with his diaphragm, then did the same thing with his good friend, the late Alex Ferguson. That image still sticks with me even some 30+ years on.
My own view is that on what I like to hear in "cornet" playing, RW is way ahead today of anyone. In comparing to past players it is hard, as although I have heard recordings of some of these players, it sometimes does not do these players justice in terms of the quality of recording methods when they were playing.I have listended to RW a lot, and he is a fantastic all round player, plus for me(and most importantly) the sound he produces is what I prefer to listen to compared to others.I believe everyone of them in their own way are fantastic players, I feel it's just down to what each individual prefers to hear in a player.Wynton Marsalis is a fantastic player, and I recently heard a recording of James Scott form the late 50's that blew me away, but for "best cornet player of dyke" for me, it,s RW.
Interesting topic, and obviously fires up some passion and encourages expression and thoughts.
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Post by euphantastic on Aug 9, 2006 8:47:02 GMT
I voted for Jim Shephard. Only because i have only havny heard oh willie,John,Ian,Lee and maurice. Most of them were probably playing well b4 i was born. I'm not being ignorant or anything. I can only vote for whom i've heard play. And to me Jim has the nicest tone of the 3 remaining. P.S Cornet players who play with a nice tone i might listen to.Unfortunatly playing in a Brass band we have to listen to them all the time ;D . When 10 are blowing their tits oot as hard as they can in your face. It can get you depressed easily, and make you rush home for a couple of pills. But i go home and put a Jim shephard recording on. And all is forgiven untill my next encounter with the Cornet, either at band , Contests, or Concerts. Not nice by the way.
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Post by dafyddapiago on Aug 9, 2006 12:01:10 GMT
We had the pleasure of Maurice Murphy attending the NYBBS course last week for a couple if days. He is one of the best players I have ever heard, and surely no Principal cornet of Dyke has achieved nearly as much through his playing as Maurice. He told us at NYBBS he'd recorded over 400 film scores in his lifetime, and was still getting phone calls last week for him to do more and all at the grand age of 71! The man is a legend and a genuine nice guy and gets my vote! Hi Scott, He was my inspiration when I attended my first NYBBGB in 1952; I was 10, he was 17. At the cornet auditions we all played in front of each other; and as he had been the principal cornet from the previous course, he was first up to play. To say I was gob-smacked is an understatement. He made the cornet talk, and opened up a new world for me. I truly believe I owe my career to his inspiration, and am deeply indebted to him. We also did our first professional gig together with the Northern Sinfonia; Brahms second symphony was on the programme, and it was a joy to play 2nd trumpet to him; wonderful memories. Dafydd ap Iago
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