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Post by cornetcheese on Dec 6, 2005 2:51:32 GMT
Ah, I realised I wrote that badly - I certainly didn`t mean that they can`t go any further, only that it can be more difficult to learn basic things later in a player`s career. That said, if a player (such as yourself) has been playing in a solo seat at championship level, I don`t think there would be any basics to learn - a lot of players work these things out over the years by themselves, despite having not been taught them I guess!
I`m going to stop before I dig a bigger hole for myself!
***Admin takes away Alan's shovel just to play it safe...***
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Post by kirkie2 on Dec 9, 2005 0:35:04 GMT
The subject of buzzing is a funny one. I can't buzz for toffee, but i know friends who swear about it. (can't understand??) You have people who can and people who can't. I was always taught to open my gob up as wide as possible to allow as much air as possible to go through the instrument. This opens a can of worms because it leaves you open to splitting the **** out of things but is the preferable way to play in my opinion!!! I would say then that buzzing is a good way to get some blood flowing to your chops but i don't think it has much to do with actually putting the real thing to your face!!! Maybe a discussion on breathe control is more pertinent, because that is much more of a hot potato.(Will spend my life trying to master breathing!!) It's all about where you don't do it on any solo that counts. Steve.
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Post by thedoc on Dec 15, 2005 0:08:36 GMT
splitting the **** out of things but is the preferable way to play in my opinion!!! Maybe a discussion on breathe control is more pertinent, because that is much more of a hot potato.(Will spend my life trying to master breathing!!) Well Steven thats a strange preference ..... splitting the **** out of things.. ;D ;D ;D Hope you master the art of breathing quickly, lifes to short as it is .... lol. would hate to lose such a talent and entertainer Doc
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Post by kirkie2 on Dec 15, 2005 22:28:20 GMT
Now I understand the concept of taking things out of context!!!!! It's Stephen with a PH, Doc!!!! At least you don't call me Stewart which seems to be the preferred way to address me of anyone over 50 in the brass band movement in Scotland.(And Jim Smith!!) I'll try my hardest to continue breathing at regular intervals, Doc. Can't promise it will work, though? The splits, I can't be so sure of!!!!!! Well I can. I will make loads of them. But thats a sure thing for all of us.
Steve.
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Post by bassboy on Dec 16, 2005 9:22:58 GMT
Now I understand the concept of taking things out of context!!!!! It's Stephen with a PH, Doc!!!! At least you don't call me Stewart which seems to be the preferred way to address me of anyone over 50 in the brass band movement in Scotland.(And Jim Smith!!) I'll try my hardest to continue breathing at regular intervals, Doc. Can't promise it will work, though? The splits, I can't be so sure of!!!!!! Well I can. I will make loads of them. But thats a sure thing for all of us. Steve. Spephen, such pragmatism from the master! Can't remember the last time i heard you split anything! Anyway, a happy Christmas to you and no doubt we'll catch up in the New Year.
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Post by kirkie2 on Dec 16, 2005 10:52:56 GMT
Happy Christmas to you too Paul. No doubt i will see you at The Scottish.(In Motherwell?) Meanwhile I have two shows today, where i'll be trying my hardest to breath and not split too many. (A tough ask!!!) Merry Christmas to you too, Doc.
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Post by thedoc on Dec 29, 2005 16:13:55 GMT
Merry Christmas to you too, Doc. Belated Xmas wishes to you Steve and a Happy and prosperous New Year when it comes. Doc
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Post by chimpman2 on Jan 27, 2006 21:09:37 GMT
I "BUZZ" nearly every night and Liz does as well, I take it you mean the PlayStation 2 game?!?!? If you haven't got it get it and play it's addictive. ;D
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Post by Louise on Jul 14, 2006 22:12:38 GMT
I can`t believe not all teachers teach this - it`s very basic! I've just noticed this thread. I got started at school in 1992 but I was never taught any of these things, we just played through things from the tune a day book. Even when I went to high school, the half hour of tuition a week was used to play stuff but I didn't really learn anything, I learned more sitting in with the wind band on a Wednesday morning before school. Of course It didn't help that I didn't practice at home but my brass tutor didn't fill me with much enthusiasm. I eventually stopped playing at school in 1997 having not learned much more than when I started. I have gained all my playing knowledge (which is not that extensive) from playing in brass bands for approx 10 years. So I would have to say that not all (in fact I think I had the only 1) Teachers teach this
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Post by Sharpy on Jul 24, 2006 12:41:55 GMT
My very first teacher used to make me buzz as he said it would help my pitching and tuning. Which it does as you have to work harder to keep the notes at pitch. Also it helps with sound production, if you do it properly your sound should improve after only a couple of minutes worth of buzzing.
Used to make TRMB do it with hymn tunes, unfortunatly they ended up laughing at each other too much!!!
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Post by thedoctor on Jul 31, 2006 18:08:39 GMT
My very first teacher used to make me buzz as he said it would help my pitching and tuning. Which it does as you have to work harder to keep the notes at pitch. Also it helps with sound production, if you do it properly your sound should improve after only a couple of minutes worth of buzzing. Used to make TRMB do it with hymn tunes, unfortunatly they ended up laughing at each other too much!!! Always found that benificial myself richard but there is a small number of people that never want to learn to benefit themselves I hope you take up another resident post in the future as you put in a lot of good work guiding Tr to 2 good results in the time you were there as resident. Neil
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Post by Sharpy on Aug 1, 2006 7:46:09 GMT
Cheers for that mate! I thoroughly enjoyed 98% of my time at TRMB, just dont ask about the other 2 %!! Back on thread tho, another teacher I had recomended buzzing without a mouthpiece! I personally find it really difficult but I think most cornet players can do it easier than other brass players. The only downside is you shouldn't get to hung up over it as buzzing without a mouthpiece usually ends up with a different buzz to buzzing on a mouthpiece. Ie different embrachoures for with/without mouthpiece, which is detrimental to your playing in the long run.
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Post by euphantastic on Aug 2, 2006 7:12:06 GMT
I'm Buzzing now!! ;D
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Post by thedoctor on Aug 2, 2006 16:51:23 GMT
And why are you buzzing now tom and not before
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Post by trmbboy on Aug 2, 2006 17:15:01 GMT
am buzzing too!
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